I have a Park HBH-2. It’s fine, but cumbersome and far from perfect. Anyone use the Park HBH-3? It seems better, but also fiddly. Same for the Feedback Sports Flop Stop. I’m curious what recommendations people have. Any homemade tools, be it a strap between frame and wheel or something more complex?
The park tool hbh-2 is my favourite. But 90% of the time I don’t use it as intended as I only throw it over the bars and that’s sufficient, too lazy for the strap. Works for me. All other solution are rather too fiddly, as it’s not worth the hassle.
I have and use the HBH3. I like that I can set it to have the fork turned for better disc caliper access. It is a bit fiddly in that the hinge points have a fair amt of play.
I also had the HBH-2 for several years. I didn’t realize how bad it sucked until I got the HBH-3. I have no experience with the Feedback version but I suspect it too is far superior to the HBH-2. Get rid of the HBH-2 and don’t look back. You’ll thank me during your next brake bleed.
Have a few of the Feedback Sports Flop Stop for the various bikes in the home, and the issue I continue to face is the rubber bits at the ends breaking up over time. Not sure if it’s due to me going one ball tighter, to avoid the floppiness, and/or the humidity where I am, but it almost certainly breaks up in a year or two.
Moved to the Park Tools HBH-3, which was equally fiddly. Will probably end up inserting some nitrile bushings at some stage, to minimise the flop. Also annoying that the circular tightening knob has started rusting too…
I’ve used the FS Flop Stop for a while. Got to say that I’m not totally enamoured with it but it does the job. I don’t like how easy it is to separate the two pieces when adjusting it. Also painted the end that you undo so I don’t try to yank the fixed end out when removing it. The Park Tool certainly looks more substantial.
@Dave_Rome once suggested to me that I put my bike in the workstand on an angle with the front of the bike lower than the rear. This is easy and avoids the front wheel/bars moving left and right.
^^ This.
Bar flop is only a problem if the front wheel is level or higher than the rear.
Can’t tell if you guys are joking or not. Do you also advise “don’t buy a torque wrench, just don’t undo the bolts that would need to be torqued?” ![]()
In all seriousness, there are dozens/hundreds of reasons you would need the front end raised. One of the top ones is the one @BJ_Keane mentioned above: a rear brake bleed.
It’s also a lot easier to wrap bar tape when the bar isn’t loosely flipping. I do most of my wrapping when the front wheel is locked on a Kickr Rollr though, but the Flop Stop helps a lot.
Helps to have the front end a bit higher when tuning brake caliper position too to save your back and neck.
In all seriousness, there are dozens/hundreds of reasons you would need the front end raised. One of the top ones is the one @BJ_Keane mentioned above: a rear brake bleed.
Totally. I’m not saying you never need to use one - just that having the front wheel lower, if you’re able to do what you need to do with the bike in that position, does eliminate the need to use a flop stop or similar.
switched to a feedback sprint stand and never really looked back! the only thing I can’t really do is to spin the front wheel to adjust caliper, which I usually do now with the bike down on a scorpio stand