As the tech-news channel has been moved entirely to the forum, I want to revive this topic that started about the upcoming Specialized Crux, that later turned out to not even be a new Crux and evolved into a upcoming / latest gravel bikes discussion topic ever since.
I want to kick off the discussion with talking about how amazing the new Pinarello bikes look. Especially the Dogma GR in this silver colorway . Also thanks to Josh for his article about the bikes and clarifying that the handle bars are not fixed for certain sizes, that was crucial information for me that I could not find anywhere else. Maybe Josh or anyone can confirm if the bikes come with powermeters? The Pinarello website does not make this clear for me and the images show some bikes that got them and some that dont (same for the painted seatpost).
A mate of mine once described Pinarelloās as looking ādrunkā, every time I see a Pina I canāt get past that! The wavy rim profile here really isnāt helping either
The Dogma GR is another addition to the list and, once again, Iām not convinced. If you make bikes for pros that get bikes for free and pick their horses for courses, itās certainly great to have a option thatās aero with very little clearance.
But for regular consumers who want a bike that is versatile enough to do all the events and races out there, I donāt think the value proposition makes sense. I have called the bike Iām looking for a ārace-em-all gravel bikeā before.
In that sense, I prefer the Grevil F over the Dogma. But even in its case, 50 mm clearance and no suspension correction still isnāt quite what Iād want.
Thomas brings up a great pointā¦.i find the new bikes to be disappointing as they have missed the mark for tire clearance, but still speak to my inner aero-geek. I love the way the new Aspero 5 looks, but 45mm tire clearance aināt it.
for a category that some are looking to for a āquiver killerā option, the bike industry is (as usual) creating unnecessary niches. The fact that brands are creating two bikes at the same time is indicative of central problems that plague the industry - no one has the discipline to say āthis is who we areā. Instead, they create more bikes and more SKUās in an attempt to be something to everyone. This inevitably leads to poor forecasting and eventual oversupply and discounting.
I think to some extent the industry and the market is still figuring out whatās best for gravel, which is then further confounded by gravel meaning many things to many people. Add in that it takes industry 3+ years to bring out the bikes, and you have the current situation. Out of curiosity, what do the people here want for near-future performance gravel bikes?
The Aspero 5 does it for me - I have relatively kind gravel and I want to go fast with aero tubes
I have beefier gravel, but I still want to go fast - aero tubes plus 50-60 mm tires please!
I have very beefy gravel, and Iām willing to sacrifice aero and maintenance for comfort/capability/suspension loss reduction - suspension corrected forks/suspension and 50-60 mm tire clearance for me!
Hi Christophe, thanks for the note. As for handlebars, itās only the Grevil F with a two-piece cockpit. The Dogma GR has an integrated bar-stem. And, no, it does not appear that any of the build kits include powermeters.
For me its 1. - We have kind gravel here and forest tracks (but not the overly technical ones) that I want to have fun at / do my training / go fast. I dont have a gravel bike (yet!), but used to do the same type of riding on a CX bike years ago, so a 40mm tire seems plenty for me.
Thanks for the clarification regarding power meters. I was confused as a lot of media pictures showed no PM, but the website picture in the āconfiguratorā on Pinarellos website shows a PM for the SRAM version.
Regarding the integrated bar-stem of the GR, as I understood from your article I can also chose that when I order the bike at my LBS? Or does it always come with the one that is recommended on that Pinarello graphic (so for my size always the super wide option )?
I think this will depend on your bike shop. Some will have more stock and flexibility with accessories/components than others. Pinarello mentioned that it was working on offering more flexibility, especially with touch points, through its retailers. Yet, I think that will differ per location so would recommend inquiring with your local dealer.
I remember reading somewhere (maybe a review..?) in which the old Grevil was described as ālooking like it got left standing next to the radiator too long and it got a bit soggyā. Canāt forget that, anytime I look at any Pinarello now!
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, of course. But if T. Pidcock can win on one, that frame design has to have some endearing qualities to it.
As for a new Crux, if they eventually release one and the headset issue is fixed, it wins right there.
Placed my order for the Pinarello Dogma GR .
Estimated delivery time for the Interstellar Grey Matt SRAM version is October 2025. Could custom chose my handlebar at my LBS when they ordered the bike (although not all combinations from that handlebar chart are available, I wanted the 420 O-O with a 110 stem and its only available up to a 100 stem length). They also could not confirm if the bike comes with a powermeter, the spec sheet doesnt state that it got one, just the picture shows it. You can also chose if you want the setback seatpost or one without setback. Crank length and the 160 rear rotor sadly could not be changed during the order process, but my LBS will sort that out.
I attended a recent launch of both the Dogma GR and new Grevil. We rode the GR on one day on a 100km route and it was superb. It felt really nimble yet planted and itās a very light bike. (The route was a lot of road and nice gravel, nothing rough nor technical).
The GR is positioned for rides under 5 hours and the Grevil for over 5 hours - a good distinction. A few photos below
. Also thanks to Josh for his article about the bikes and clarifying that the handle bars are not fixed for certain sizes, that was crucial information for me that I could not find anywhere else. Maybe Josh or anyone can confirm if the bikes come with powermeters? The Pinarello website does not make this clear for me and the images show some bikes that got them and some that dont (same for the painted seatpost).
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