Shimano Altus M315 Flatbar Front Shifter/Derailleur

Admittedly, I don’t often work on flatbar setups, so this one has left me somewhat intrigued. A long time client recently dropped off his daughter’s bike, a Trek Marlin, set up with Shimano Altus all round. One of the issues she had been dealing with was chain drops at both ends (inside/outside).

Resolving the issue of the chain dropping on the inside (onto the BB) was easily sorted out with a slight adjustment to the limit screw. It’s the chain dropping on the outside that has gotten me befuddled.

The shifter is specifically, an M315-2L variant, while the FD is an M315-TS, both designed for 2x chainrings. On closer inspection, the shifter is an exact replica of the M315-L 3x variant, without the “3” printed onto the optical display. I’ve found that you could actually shift past the “2” on the M315-2L shifter into what should theoretically be the “3” position. In doing so, the FD actually shifts the chain off the big ring, leading to chain drops. This leads me to the suspicion that that was what my client’s daughter has been doing - overshifting, so that the derailleur moves a little too far outboard, causing the chain to fall off.

Is this normal for the M315 2x setups? I’ve resorted to some degree of finessing the “H” limit screw so that it prevents the FD from moving into the vacant “3” position, but outboard enough so that shifting from the small chainring to the big one is still pretty straightforward.

Keen to hear thoughts/experiences.

Thanks all!

wow that’s a comically small difference.

If the H limit doesn’t work, I say dumpster it and grab a CUES 1x groupset off Aliexpress.

Thanks for the photos - I couldn’t get around to uploading them :joy:

Messing about with the “H” limit works pretty well, but not as much as I’d like, and kids grow out their bikes quite quick as well, and I’d hate to have my client spend money on new parts only to have his daughter grow out the bike in a few months.

Circling back to the FD, I’ve now got the chain running right in the middle of the FD cage, to minimise chain rub. It would have been sweet to have the FD actually be a dedicated 2x setup, so there’s less of a gap between the chain and the outer plate. Currently this isn’t possible, if I had kept the 1mm or so gap between plate and chain, since this results in the chain failing to jump onto the big ring smoothly.