Non-carbon endurance bike?

I’m looking to upgrade my 2005 Cannondale Synapse (10 speed mechanical ultegra groupset and wheels, circa 2015) - thought I should finally try out all this “cutting edge” tech like disc brakes and 28+mm tyres.

Preferences, in no particular order:

  • not carbon (can probably be talked out of this, I just like the idea of adding slightly fewer things to landfill)
  • comfort over speed (although would be nice to be able to keep up with the group rides)
  • durability (something that will deal happily with car boots, bike bags, etc)
  • not an integrated cockpit (this seems to be increasingly difficult to find)
  • available in either Australia or Indonesia

I’m a reasonable bike mechanic, although building up from a frame is probably beyond me (I was tempted by WDNSDY BIKE | JOURNEY TITANIUM before I realised I couldn’t buy it as a complete bike).

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I’ve seen several good reviews for the Fairlight Strael. Don’t know about availability where you are.

Strael 4.0 - Fairlight Cycles

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I don’t know which companies to recommend to someone in your area but your bullet list points towards “find a local custom frame builder”. Everything on the list is seemingly the strong points of the smaller companies that do custom. They almost always do steel or Titanium for durability, custom geometry takes care of “endurance” better than any stock frame, and they almost never push integrated cockpits.

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Enigma build titanium bikes and seem to tick the boxes you have. Their dealers can be found here Dealers – Enigma Bicycle Works
I recall looking at an Aussie bike builder but their name escapes me just now, no pun intended. I was looking/drooling over some gravel bike goodness.
Good luck in your search.

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I remember seeing some real nice bikes from Prova and Baum when I was at the Made Show. Both are Australian.

I have a Mason Definition which may fit the bill.

Aluminium frame and “traditional” front end.

Mounts for mud guards if you need them.

I bought it as a winter bike but liked it so much I rode it through out the year.

I’ve done LEJOG on it twice as well as numerous Audax rides of 200 to 600km.

Agh just read the post again - not sure about availability in your kneck of the woods

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If you’re not looking for anything too fancy, how about a Genesis Equilibrium? Looks like Genesis have Australian distribution, so you should be able to get hold of one. Endurance geo, 32mm tyre clearance, old-school headset, Reynolds 725 tubing with a carbon fork. A thoroughly alright bike, if not the most exciting. I think the builds top out with Shimano 105 though.

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What about Ritchey? The Montebello seems like it would potentially fit your needs.

I recently built up a Swiss Cross and the ride quality is fantastic.

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Lots of great frame recommendations here already, but I think some of your best options would be available only as framesets, not complete bikes. Don’t let that stop you, getting a frameset and building it up yourself is the best way to get a bike that’s just right for you!

You say you’re a reasonable bike mechanic, so you’re probably more skilled than I was the first time I built up a bike frame. I started with relatively little knowledge and have done a couple of builds now, and I’ve learned that selecting the right frameset and components can make the build a lot easier:

- You want a frameset that takes a threaded, external bottom bracket (preferably BSA, I’ve also done a T47 build but the thin flanges are a lot harder to work with). Installing these is pretty easy if you have a large torque wrench, especially into a steel, aluminum, or titanium frame.

- Find a frameset that doesn’t require you to press headset cups in yourself. This requires somewhat pricy equipment if you want to do it right. It’s also possible to screw it up and damage your frame, so I find it’s best avoided. Some frames come with cups already pressed in, which is great.

- Avoid integrated cable routing running through the headset. You already mentioned you don’t want an integrated cockpit, so that’s good. Routing brake hoses through frames is pretty doable, routing through handlebar/stem combos and then through headset is not a good idea for your first bike build.

- Get a groupset with wireless shifting! It’s so easy to set a bike up with smooth and reliable shifting now, because all the parts just bolt on, everything is aligned much better because of thru-axles, and I find that things like limit screws etc. are much easier to work with than they used to be 10+ years ago. Youtube videos are also immensely helpful for learning how to fix any setup issues you run into.

- Don’t be afraid of setting up hydraulic disc brakes yourself. If you get a frame with entirely external routing (like a Fairlight Strael) you may not even have to cut any brake hoses during install (groupsets often come with brake hoses already connecting the lever to the caliper, and prefilled with brake fluid. If you do have to cut hoses to size for your build, just buy a good hose cutter and a brake bleed kit that’s specific to your groupset (I find the SRAM ones really nice, but they’re not compatible across manufacturers) and watch some Youtube videos to learn how to use it.

Sorry about the wall of text. I’m sure not everyone will agree with all of the above, but my main point is that if you pick a frameset that’s easy to work on, building up your own bike is quite fun and really not that hard.

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Dirt Works have a sale on some Ritchey frames at the moment.

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I read endurance as not gravel and I ended up with an aluminum Trek Domane. I like it. I’d probably do good steel next time but it’s comfortably between gravel and endurance.

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The Ti Curve Belgie Disc ticks all your boxes. And it’s $1000 AUD off at the moment.

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+1 For a Strael. Frame or complete bikes, they send to Australia (I got a frame only). There are heaps of frame size options. Replaced an internally routed carbon bike, this is just one full water bottle heavier but I can play with fit. Ride feel is very similar to what was replaced, can take tyres up to 39mm if that’s your thing. Yet to find a downside.

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As a recent Enigma customer (custom Echelon from the Signature range) I can thoroughly recommend. It sounds like your location will prevent you from having the same experience I had though. Bike fit, test ride and factory tour in the same visit. I can’t fault the frame or the aftersales service and it seems to tick all the boxes you listed.

I’ve had a Lynskey Breakaway for a decade, which is squarely in the “non-carbon endurance bike” lane.

Sadly, it looks like Lynskey are a casualty of the bike industry meltdown. However, its made me a huge fan of titanium for this kind of bike. Not so much for the way the bike rides, though it’s excellent, but the fact that you can give brushed titanium a quick clean and it looks brand new even now.

I’d definitely have a look at brands like Curve offering factory-built titanium at relatively reasonable prices, if your budget doesn’t extend to custom.

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Two ideas for modern non-carbon frames:

Massacan Scapada: Scapada | Massacan Shop (Italian aluminium tubing from Dedacciai -arguably the same as Mason - available as complete or frameset option.)

Standert Pfadfinder: Pfadfinder | Standert Steel Road Bikes | Standert Bicycles (steel, worldwide shipping, not really an endurance geo though)

As others have mentioned, Strael Fairlight would be my pick. Also look at Pashley Roadfinder SL or the steel/Alu options from Mason.

Fairlight, if they ship to AUS.

Custom butted/shaped Reynolds steel tubing, with range of bolt on guides for running 1x, 2x, mechanical or electronic and three dropout options to go with normal hanger, T-type full mount or Shimano direct mount.

Two geometries for each size too - regular and tall.

I have the Secan, and have a Strael on order.

Ride is focussed towards being fast through comfort and handling confidence, rather than feeling fast through stiffness.

If nothing else, go and browse their ‘look books’. You’ll loose a couple of hours easily as they are a fantastic way to geek out.

On the value side, the Giant Contend($) checks those boxes. Likewise, the Trek Emonda ALR($). If you want steel, then maybe the Bombtrack Tempest($)?

On the Ti / more niche side, Marinoni($$), T-Lab($$$), Naked($$$) all do nice bikes, but I’m not sure how easy it would be to get them in AU.

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If you change your mind about carbon, I am selling my barely used OPEN Cycles MIN.D. at a very favourable price (frameset or complete / part-complete), and I’m in Sydney - awesome bike, but I want to get their new WI.DE gravel bike and this is the only way I can justify it!