N *minus* 1 road bike deliberations

(I’ll preface this by saying I have the privilege of owning perfectly functional/good bikes and this whole thought experiment is absolutely an excuse to buy a new bike, not that I need a new bike per se.)

My current stable of road bikes comprises a 2021 Canyon Ultimate with 11-spd Ultegra Di2/disc brakes + Hunt 40mm Aerodynamisict wheels and a carbon Ritchey Breakaway with 11-spd mechanical 105 and HED Ardennes Black wheels (rim brakes). The latter was a COVID project to give me something to look forward to when travel happened again. When it did, the bike saw some great stuff: Mt. Baldy, Mt. Ventoux, Stelvio, Gavia, etc. The Ultimate is my daily driver for most rides (solo + club rides) with the Ritchey being the travel bike + higher winds choice (its shallower wheels do better in gusty conditions). I ride year-round to below freezing but don’t do rain rides unless forced to (e.g. events, while traveling, etc.).

While constantly obsessing over potential upgrades to both bikes, I started thinking about the possibility of embracing N-1 and downsizing from two road bikes to One Really Fun Road Bike with Two Wheel Sets (one deep/fast, one shallow for wind/winter) that could do fast daily driver duties as well as thrive as a travel bike. The latter requires external cable routing for my Transfer Case (and a preference to move to wireless from the Ritchey’s mechanical shifting, and a shift to disc brakes) and the former means I don’t want something noticeably ponderous or dull. I ride about 4-5 times/week and ~10k km/year. 90% of it is on “good” or “decent” roads with travel being the wildcard where I might encounter less great tarmac (think Northern California, UK, etc.). New bike will run on 30 or 32mm rubber and with either 105 Di2/Rival AXS or Force AXS/Ultegra Di2, with a slight preference for SRAM for the ease of packing/unpacking while traveling.

I’ll hit 50 in < 2 years and am lucky I’m not (yet) dealing with chronic aches and pains. But I don’t/won’t race and don’t need/want to max out aero optimization at the expense of comfort or utility. My biggest thrills are travel riding and Bid Stupid Rides (fondos, brevets, etc.). So I’ve gone down the rabbit hole looking for a unicorn bike that has external routing and practical travel features (top tube bosses, internal storage, and/or bosses under the downtube) but can still be fun/competitive on a “Worlds” full gas group ride (I have little natural athletic ability but can hang with A rides). That’s sadly a small-ish group of options with Big Internal Routing increasingly ruining everything these days :laughing:

Would love all instincts and perspectives on the following options, or other options I’m missing and should include. (Notes: not looking to go full custom for budget reasons and I will solve final wheel selections in a separate obsessive-compulsive exercise; for now, don’t worry about what wheels come stock with these builds.)

1) Fairlight Strael. If the reviews are to be believed, this is the greatest all-around road bike in the history of bikes. Extra bosses on down tube very useful to me. Slightly concerned about extra weight with a steel frame but I realize that’s largely my bias and likely not an actual drawback in this case. I have work reasons to be in the UK and could potentially avoid US tariffs by bringing an empty bike case on the way over and traveling back with a Strael inside :slight_smile: More expensive than options below but not radically so. Wins on vibes.

2) Lauf Uthald. Like the bit of aero Lauf were able to engineer on the front end and the good value for money. Wish there were extra storage solutions/bosses. I live in the Mid-Atlantic of the US and could easily justify a road trip to Harrisonburg, VA for a test ride.

3) Salsa Warroad. Would likely build this up rather than buy a full build (frameset is on sale currently) and in contrast to the Uthald, it has loads of places to bolt on bags and cages. I own a Warbird for gravel and am slightly concerned the Warroad, while likely faster, might feel too slow for “regular” riding and training. But it’s awfully practical from a travel bike standpoint.

4) Cervelo Caledonia. The base models (not the “-5” line) still come with external routing and I like the top tube bosses. Rest of the kit is underwhelming and would require some upgrades (bars, seat post, etc.).

All the geos above should work for me (with the right final set up, of course) and are “close enough” to the Ultimate and Ritchey that I shouldn’t be dealing with major fit issues [knocks on wood]. Warroad is the most upright and has a longer stack than I am used to, however.

Thanks in advance!

PS - Goal would be to keep N-1 bike price around US$4-5k range (setting aside extra wheelset cost).

PPS - Other things I’ve considered but not included here: previous-gen Aethos (more aggressive geo then I think I’ll want, no extra storage/bosses), and low-end BMC Roadmachine (great storage/bosses situation but can’t get over the silhouette…and hard to find the base builds with external routing).

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N-1? Pretty sure there’s a fundamental maths error here.

(sorry for the flippant reply, I don’t know anything about those particular bikes, I’m 60 and I ride a racebike geometry)

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The mental arithmetic here is flawed. Once you’ve owned a bike for a couple of years and used it to the point of ‘it owes me nothing’ there is no advantage in moving a bike on unless you don’t have the space. The cash you’d earn for a well used bike vs the utility value favours retaining the bike.

Sounds like there’s an itch for a new machine here for sure but ask yourself honestly if it’s a replacement or an entirely new use case

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No real opinion about your specific options, but I did something analogous several years ago. My only very nice / fast bike is in the allroad / gravel category, and I do indeed have two wheelsets for it — 700c road wheels and 650b wheels with knobbies for trails and such. It basically worked out!

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I hear you but also can’t imagine riding three road bikes with regularity. Won’t sell the existing bikes for great price points but hanging in my garage not being ridden doesn’t net me too much, either.

It’s unclear what problem you are trying to solve. Having one bike for travel AND regular riding? Personally I like having a second bike because I’m covered even when one bike is down for maintenance.

That’s sounds like a pretty perfect stable to me.

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The main problem is wanting new bikes while not wanting to spend loads of extra dollars on them :slight_smile: Willing to consider consolidation as a solution. Not claiming it’s overwhelmingly rational!

Even before reaching your list I was, honestly, thinking Fairlight Strael or Secan. I’m in a similar situation, whereby, I live in USA but need to leave a bike in Italy for extended visits and ride Road/mild gravel. Seriously considering the Fairlights; such well considered and engineered frames (look good too). I definitely wouldn’t sweat the extra weight of steel (have a Peg Responsorium disc), it’s not super noticeable, even on extended climbs and also has the advantage of vastly reduced baggage handling worries over CFRP frames when travelling.

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My bar for giving up a bike with travel couplers for a bike without would be very high.

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I’m pretty sure such thinking is against the rules of membership here.

Stop now before you are banned. :zany_face:

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This is probably very dependent on frame size. A few years back I was packing up my no coupler bike (54cm) into a post carry transfer case while a travel companion was packing his ritchey breakaway into the ritchey case. He did a lot more work to fit hit bike into a case that was only marginally smaller. Both bikes were rim brake without front end cable integration for reference. He came the conclusion that next time he would just travel with a bike without couplers (owned a successful bike shop so lots of access to bikes).

The bigger the frame, probably the bigger the benefit of the couplers.

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I think it also depends on one’s luck with the airline. I have had airline staff measure my S&S case at check-in. If they do that with a Post case, and actually also with a Ritchey case, as well as Co-Motion’s travel case, those all exceed the official dimensions of 62 total inches (height + width + depth).

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How about the (brand new) Ritchey Septimer?

Covered in N-1 and Velochumps Pod, fwiw

Absolutely go for it! Sell it all and get something exiting. It might not be the best idea for everyone but (I hope I’m not crossing line) but you are almost 50 with good health. You will not enjoy new bike when you are 55+ as much as you would enjoy it now. In my opinion get something you really like and get proper travel bag rather than something just easy to travel with.

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I find the difference between traveling with the Ritchey vs. my gravel bike in the slightly larger Transfer Case not terribly huge. Smaller footprint of the Ritchey case definitely a plus for vehicles and public transport but not a pain like a Scicon/EVOC situation.

Looks super fun but not sure it’s the right solution for 100% road riding. Definitely a great gravel travel bike (it rhymes!).

Small differences in convenience! But, at the risk of belaboring the point, there could be meaningful differences in cost.

If I remember right, airline staff have been fussier about case dimensions when I was flying within Europe.

I’ve never flown with anything that was slightly oversized. My S&S case conforms to standard check-in size, and the B&W case I use with my MTB clearly doesn’t.

I’m part of the*fast group” of our club - there’s about 6 of us who ride regularly.

4 of that 6 have Fairlight Straels as part of their collection - I’ve changed the WhatsApp group name to Fairlight Owners Club! The new 4th gen is incredibly light for a steel all road/endurance bike, more like Titanium.

Whilst they’ve all got other high end carbon bikes (Enve, Look etc) they all really rate their Straels.

Edit regarding the actual N-1 motivation: I own something like 10 bikes so have multiple bikes of each category including 3 road bikes. Even owning 2 Trek Madones - a Gen 6 and a Gen 8- they are all different enough to give a different riding experience. Riding is basically essential to my mental health (which is generally poor), and riding the same bike on the same roads/trails can become tedious, which means I’m less likely to ride, which means my mental health declines. Having and riding different bikes keeps the riding fresh and helps motivate me to get out of the door.

10 bikes might be a bit excessive :wink: but I’d think about whether each bike you have actually brings you joy, and whether you want N+1 instead of N-1.

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Downsizing and consolidating is cleansing. If you can afford a new bike then sell the old ones to people who will love them and get something new for you to love.

I turned an old Specialized Epic and moderately old and uninspiring Trek Marlin into a new Specialized Chisel a few years ago. It’s simple and clean and I love it.

That Fairlight is beautiful. The others are not. (IMO) And steel for travelling seems like a good option.

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