I need some new road tires, was wondering if anyone uses the Goodyear Eagle F1R tires?.
Do you like them, do you not like them?.
I never tried them personally, but a local team here with guys I know were sponsored by them. The F1R is quite a slow rolling tire compared to other brands high end tires… the Supersport version is faster but is more designed as a TT race day tire so much easier to puncture and a lot less durable.
But, Good Year just introduced a brand new model like a week or two ago, the Eagle F1 RS with a new compound, new casing, new construction that Good Year claims is highly improved (32% less RR, 35% better puncture protection, better grip, longer wear). It’s too soon to know if it’s all true but I would get the new ones or only consider the old ones if they’re on a massive sale and thus dirt cheap and I didn’t care about performance…
Thanks for the feedback, so now I am seeing the Eagle (non F1) on a pretty big sale, $43 US.
As non ex racer but still like to go a decent clip, that price is pretty attractive.
Will I really notice the difference, for reference the Eagle F1 is $59
The F1R is a perfectly good all rounder if you’re not motivated by outright performance and it’s really good value. It’s been on seemingly permanent 50% discount here in the UK and as a result I know a few guys who ride them. I don’t know of anything better for close to the price.
For road, I feel like it’s hard to justify anything but the vanilla super reliable choice of a GP5000 (unless you are looking for something larger).
When I’ve strayed, I’ve generally been disappointed.
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Same here. GP5000 are a bit boring as almost everyone uses them but there is a good reason so many do. They aren’t the absolute best at anything, but they are very close to the best at everything while usually outlasting other high end tires. They don’t really have any downside… apart from their price, although they are not more expensive than top end competitors like Corsas or P-Zeros and because they’re so common and stocked in every shops, they often can be found on sale.
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I recently bought a set of the non tubeless P Zeros. I’m impressed with them. As good as the GP5000 they replaced. Interestingly they allow latex tubes to retain air far better than any previous tyre I’ve used.
No idea about the Goodyear but with tyres I’ve found you get what you pay for
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As someone who went back to clinchers a few seasons ago after being underwhelmed by road tubeless, I was interested in trying the P-Zero RS when they announced a clincher version, I just wished they offered bigger sizes like they do with their tubeless version. I just bought a pair of GP5000 again because I wanted 32’s.
Are the P-Zero’s considered on par with the GP 5000? (tubeless BTW)
According to bicyclerollingresistance.com I would say the P-Zero Race RS TLR Speedcore has nothing to envy the GP5000, it might be even better as it tested as very fast, with great grip dry and wet, good puncture resistance too… no idea if they can get as much milage as GP5000s though.
There is also a new P-Zero Race TLR SL-R that’s even faster, lighter and more aero thanks to clever shaping of the sidewalls that smooths the tire-rim transition, but they are more comparable to the GP5000 TT, race day tires that have less rubber in the thread and thus wear out much quicker and have less puncture protection in the center (but almost accidentally, the aero sidewalls have more rubber which mean the sidewalls are more resistant).
The story is different for clinchers though, they tested the P-Zero Race RS clinchers as quite a few watts slower than the GP5000 clinchers, not sure why.
But we shouldn’t take BRR’s results as 100% reliable and the absolute truth as I don’t think they test enough samples, sometimes they test a single tire… Normal manufacturing variations in tires mean that you have to take their results with a grain of salt. 0.1mm more or less rubber can make a notable difference in results and it’s common to have thickness and weight variations between tires of the same model… and as tires wear out, they all roll faster and faster anyway. 
At this point though, for mortals like us, it’s hard to go wrong either way I think. I can feel a difference in tire feel/grip, but rolling resistance, only when comparing a high-end performance tire to a more entry level tire or a more bombproof commuter tire, when the RR gap is probably huge, but a couple watts more or less between different very high end tires, I wouldn’t know.
I have F1s since they came onto the market. I find them to be great, and often pretty cheap. Can’t perceive any difference in speed compared to better rated Pirelli P Zeros. V. easy to setup tubeless, not particularly prone to punctures. The newer iterations are likely faster. No hesitation in recommending them.
Off-topic: May I ask how comfort is on GP5000? I used GP4000 untill I tried Vittoria Corsa and never looked back. But maybe GP5000 is on par (at least with the NEXT, which is slightly less comfortable but a lot less expensive)?
How easy are the Conti 5000 tires to mount?
I used Conti tubulars years ago and, man oh man, they were an absolute bitch to get on the rim. That experience has scared me off anything Conti since then.
I have been using the Pirelli Tube-only tires and they’re great but I would also like a 32mm width which Pirelli still doesn’t do in this model.
Just to offer a counterpoint to the GP5000 promotion. Having worked as a shop mechanic I’ve seen dozens of them fail prematurely by cracking on the shoulders. It’s not a batch Q/C thing as it’s been an issue since release and I still see it now. I’ve heard it described as “dry rot" and it definitely seems to be that tyres/bikes that are stored for long periods are far more prone to it (so "summer bikes” in the UK, TT bikes etc). If you’re a high mileage or regular rider it’s probably not an issue but if you have a collection of bikes and some sit months without being ridden it’s definitely a consideration.
Personally I’m a big fan of the Pirelli P Zero RS, but the OP seemed to prioritise value/budget over high level performance and the RS and GP5 are both pretty premium tyres.
I trained/raced them for a couple of seasons. They came on a new Factor Ostro VAM at the time, so I figured that I’d give them a try. They are comparable to base-model GP 5000s – a decent all-around training/racing choice. I used 28 and 30 mm versions with TPU inners, and the ride quality, grip, and wet/dry performance are comparable.
However, I switched back to Continental in 2025 when a new set of F1 R’s began delaminating at the tread-sidewall interface after less than 1000 km. I contacted Goodyear (Taiwan, where they are made), but there was no follow-through. So I take it that they were struggling with QC/batch issues. However, that’s something that I’ve not had with Continental (GP 3000, 4000 and 5000).
That’s my N=1 experience for what it’s worth.
Not used the Eagle R, but I just did the Marmotte on Supersport Rs because they were going cheap for fast tyres. They set up tubeless really easily on my giant wheels and held up for a week in the alps.
Even if they only last 1/2 as long as GP5000s, they will be good value.
It is absolutely very difficult to look past the GP5000. There are a few options getting close lately though, like the Hutchinson Blackbird Race, or the new Pirellis. And tires are really the last part on my bike were I would try to save money.
Did you change brands of latex at the same time as your tires?
I’m going to try the P Zero Race for my next set of tyres, but I’m going to stick with latex tubes for now.
I think I read somewhere the compound in the P Zero tubeless is better than the clincher version, but what do people think about running tubes in tubeless-ready tyres?