Possible Chain Wax Travel Idea?

Then don’t be that guy? As explained above this is more than just my experience as I am sitting on an email from early 2024 in which Silca sets out all these issues. While those issues are known within the Silca supply chain, I don’t want to share the email here bc using the exact quotes from the email may out my source. @Dave_Rome if you are interested in looking into this I can send you a confidential copy of the email. Might help provide some answers while also satisfying the sceptics that this isn’t some hoax.

That’s not been confirmed by Silca to anyone else’s knowledge. The point of my comment was not to say your wrong, but just saying this thing says or that guys says really doesn’t cut it. Maybe when when the facts actually come to light and aren’t kept confidential, things will be different. Saying there’s confidential source really doesn’t improve anything.

Maybe try it again when you can be open about whatever evidence you have. Objectivity requires more evidence in this case. Besides, loads of people claim to have confidential sources. There’s s guy on YouTube claiming to have a confidential source that claims that some government controlled plasma spheres took control of Malaysia Flight 370 and made it disappear into a wormhole (I am serious. Someone claims that.). There’s no implied credibility here for the claim. You’re making a claim and providing zero evidence. Why is it wrong to want more evidence instead of just accepting the word of someone in an internet comment section.?

Hence my solution of providing it to Dave Rome so he can investigate while preserving confidentiality. Or did you not actually read my post? Also as you would have seen from above if you read the whole thread before going in with inferences that people are lying, this was stated as a PSA - if you don’t want to follow the advice and stick with the “everyone is lying” approach, then you are perfectly free to do so.

Wow. You really didn’t read what I said at all. Thanks. A PSA should come with something actually supporting the PSA.

Sorry mate I really can’t help you. Sorry, I did try.

  1. A glue gun is heavier than taking multiple spare, pre-waxed chains.
  2. Drip wax exists.

I cannot see any viable reason to do this for ‘travel’ even if it works (it wont).

That was going to be my other suggestion and what I do too. I always have an extra waxed chain on rotation at home for each bike already. And I use two endurance chips in my wax now (I’m a big fan), so it has been lasting a good amount of time, especially in harsher conditions compared to normal wax (per SILCA 900km on double endurance, though I’ve never gone quite that far before rewaxing). Bring an extra endurance waxed chain or two for the trip. No glue guns, no security confiscation, no cargo bay worries. Maybe I’m missing another issue with this option. Riding more than 2500km on one trip, which is possible and quite impressive. At that point it may be worth checking in a bag of wax and buying an inexpensive crock pot on the other end of the travel (or checking one in your bag). Personally, I’d bring a couple endurance waxed chains, a bottle of drip in cargo, and send it! :sign_of_the_horns:t4:

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Yep this is a solid option. I have a couple of friends who do this although it does increase weight by c250g per chain which may matter if you are up against the airline baggage limit.

I am going to use the idea suggested above of decanting some Super Secret into an eyedropper bottle and taking in my carry on for a trip to France soon.

Things have certainly progressed from 2017 when I took a bag of wax to France and then wasted half a day unsuccessfully trying to buy a slow cooker over there (this was pre any sort of drip-on wax). Was racing GF Worlds so it was kinda important and we ended up using a cooking pot heated with an iron which I definitely don’t recommend!

This all seems… odd. If “low pressure” was a necessary condition for the failure, why would sea freight be affected? If low pressure isn’t a requirement, how cold and for how long - I imagine my (detached, unheated) garage overwinter in Scotland may be colder for longer than sea freight. And I’m no aeroplane nerd, but AIUI the cargo hold is pressurized (albeit cabin pressure is a bit below normal air pressure at ground level) and maintained at a temperature somewhat above freezing (even more so in passenger aircraft where the main cabin is heated).

Dang! I forgot about weight. This is a cycling forum, after all. Put some helium balloons in your luggage? That may offset a gram or two! :thinking:

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I’m just relating what Silca said in an email to some people in their supply chain. Two identified failure modes. Relatively low temp at low pressure in airplane hold for 10+ hours is mode one. Mode two is winter shipping where temps are very low for an extended time. I don’t know how low the temp at ground level pressure needs to be so question needs to be directed at Silca. I do know Silca stopped airfreight and winter sea freight to Australia in early 2024 so it was clearly a big problem in their view. As to the science behind it and how in relates to storage in a cold shed, again it would be very handy for us all if Josh would answer some questions.

I think we get it at this point….you don’t need to reiterate your complaint every post.

By repeating the same thing over and over, you are making this sound like a personal grudge vs. a PSA.

That’s possibly a fair point, but could be avoided if people read more carefully before raising issues already addressed in prior posts, don’t you think?

I am wondering if you’ve got a “bad” batch of the Silca drip lube but there’s no way to tell unless Silca starts putting batch number on the label. After the initial fiasco with version one of their sealant, I suggested to Silca to implement something similar to a production batch record. My last Silca drip lube was ordered in August 2023 and the label on the bottle does not have any batch number.

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